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	<title>Comments on: Filtering out the junk and the noise</title>
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		<title>By: John Larkin</title>
		<link>http://blog.larkin.net.au/2008/08/26/filtering-out-the-junk-and-the-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator>John Larkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ken. I agree, teaching students how to pinpoint their search queries is a skill to be shared and taught. I find that I have to be ruthless at times and filter out the noise in my reader at times. Cheers, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ken. I agree, teaching students how to pinpoint their search queries is a skill to be shared and taught. I find that I have to be ruthless at times and filter out the noise in my reader at times. Cheers, John.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Allan</title>
		<link>http://blog.larkin.net.au/2008/08/26/filtering-out-the-junk-and-the-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-701</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kia ora John!

I guess I must be one of the people with spam filterers. What makes me think that? Two things:

I was never any good at Trivial Pursuits, though I knew a lot (and I mean a lot) about what I needed to do to do my job. Despite my tenacity with the game, friends said, &quot;You just don&#039;t know enough trivia.&quot;

I can be very good at doing crossword puzzles. I like crossword puzzles, which is fortunate, but they don&#039;t always like me. If the crossword compiler of our local rag changes, I go through hell trying to &#039;tune&#039; into the mind-set of the compiler. Though I understand that this is not an uncommon problem for crossword enthusiasts when the compiler changes, not everyone has the problems that I do. I think it comes down to the pool of trivia that the compiler uses in writing a set of crossword puzzles.

But these might be taking it a bit off topic.

I suspect that filtering the junk can&#039;t be taught, at least not easily. I think it&#039;s related to the skills needed to write useful search criteria, for instance.

Writing relevant criteria that will return useful results is also not easily taught. Many people use so-called &#039;relevant&#039; data in their search that returns junk. It all hinges on what one calls &#039;relevant&#039;. One might think that those skilled in mathematics and logic or even a bit of science, would be better at writing good search criteria. I&#039;ve found this is not the case.

It might be an interesting study (if one CAN assess low and high-capacity in people) to see which of that group write the best search criteria.

(Incidentally - and this is just a bit of trivia - I could not access this post from my Google Reader. Check it out.)

ka kite
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora John!</p>
<p>I guess I must be one of the people with spam filterers. What makes me think that? Two things:</p>
<p>I was never any good at Trivial Pursuits, though I knew a lot (and I mean a lot) about what I needed to do to do my job. Despite my tenacity with the game, friends said, &#8220;You just don&#8217;t know enough trivia.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can be very good at doing crossword puzzles. I like crossword puzzles, which is fortunate, but they don&#8217;t always like me. If the crossword compiler of our local rag changes, I go through hell trying to &#8216;tune&#8217; into the mind-set of the compiler. Though I understand that this is not an uncommon problem for crossword enthusiasts when the compiler changes, not everyone has the problems that I do. I think it comes down to the pool of trivia that the compiler uses in writing a set of crossword puzzles.</p>
<p>But these might be taking it a bit off topic.</p>
<p>I suspect that filtering the junk can&#8217;t be taught, at least not easily. I think it&#8217;s related to the skills needed to write useful search criteria, for instance.</p>
<p>Writing relevant criteria that will return useful results is also not easily taught. Many people use so-called &#8216;relevant&#8217; data in their search that returns junk. It all hinges on what one calls &#8216;relevant&#8217;. One might think that those skilled in mathematics and logic or even a bit of science, would be better at writing good search criteria. I&#8217;ve found this is not the case.</p>
<p>It might be an interesting study (if one CAN assess low and high-capacity in people) to see which of that group write the best search criteria.</p>
<p>(Incidentally &#8211; and this is just a bit of trivia &#8211; I could not access this post from my Google Reader. Check it out.)</p>
<p>ka kite<br />
from Middle-earth</p>
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